Rudy Giuliani says he is ready to LOSE election lawsuits in hope they end up in front of the Supreme Court – as latest Donald Trump lawyer revealed as radio host who says president has lost
- ‘We’re prepared in some of these cases to lose and to appeal and to get it to the Supreme Court,’ Giuliani said Tuesday
- Several lawyers have already withdrawn under pressure from Trump’s case
- The Trump campaign retained lawyer Marc Scaringi, who also has a radio show
- Scaringi said there are no ‘bombshells’ that will ‘derail a Biden presidency’
- President Trump has claimed the election was ‘rigged’ without providing evidence of his claim of widespread voting fraud
- Conservatives hold a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court
Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday the Trump campaign is ready to lose election cases in Pennsylvania and other states in a strategy he said would ultimately hand a final decision to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Giuliani made the statement amid scrutiny of Trump’s legal strategy, amid public calls for the president to provide evidence of the widespread fraud he claims resulted in a ‘rigged’ election that Trump claims he ‘won.’
The president’s personal attorney was due to appear in court on Tuesday to argue one of Trump’s cases, an attempt to have hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots removed from the count in Pennsylvania.
It was the first time since 1992 he was due to appear in federal court, and the first time since 2018 in any court room, having appeared for his alleged mistresses’ daughter in a Florida court two years ago.
‘Frankly this is a case that we would like to get to the Supreme Court. So we’re prepared in some of these cases to lose and to appeal and to get it to the Supreme Court,’ Giuliani told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo Tuesday.
The Supreme Court does not have to take up appeals and can simply leave lower-court rulings in place. And if Trump won, the state in which he won, or the Democratic party, could appeal to the Supreme Court too.
Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said the Trump campaign is ‘prepared in some of these cases to lose’ at it seeks to get before the U.S. Supreme Court
‘You might remember in Bush v. Gore the Bush campaign lost in the state of Florida because it was a Democratic court,’ he said. ‘You’re not going to win every one of these … But in some cases you win, some cases you lose, the most important thing is this will be now our first established vehicle on our way to the Supreme Court.’
Giuliani’s comments appeared to be preparing the ground for legal setbacks – after multiple attorneys have withdrawn from representation amid public calls for Trump to accept the outcome of the election. President-elect Joe Biden is not getting secret intelligence briefings nor is an official transition underway after a Trump political appointee refused to assess that Biden was the winner.
Biden leads Trump by about 60,000 votes in Pennsylvania, so any court would have to throw out a large number of ballots to have an impact on the result.
Trump made his comments on the Fox Business Network
Trump’s new Pennsylvania lawyer Marc Scaringi cast doubt derailing a ‘Biden presidency’ through the courts immediately after Election Day
Giuliani also pointed to a Trump campaign lawsuit in Michigan.
‘That case is also another vehicle to go to the Supreme Court. He also mentioned suits in Wisconsin and Georgia. ‘Then we’ll have three more right after that.’ In all of those states, networks declared Trump the winner. There is a hand recount underway in Georgia.
Giuliani continues to argue that hundreds of thousands of Pennsylvania votes should be tossed due to what he claims was insufficient monitoring.
‘We have no idea if those 670,000 ballots were put in by Mikey Mouse or Biden’s cousin … or by some criminal who got paid money to produce ten thousand,’ he said.
‘Pennsylvania has in fat reversed an election based on absentee irregularities,’ he said.
Trump called on Giuliani to help oversee his sprawling legal efforts.
Trump in his early morning Nov. 4th statement where he claimed he ‘won’ the election said: ‘we will be going to the Supreme Court.’
Conservatives hold a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court, but many legal experts have predicted Trump’s efforts will fail, with Biden having amassed 306 electoral votes.
Trump in September signaled he believed an election case would ultimately land before the Supreme Court, as he made the case to fill the vacancy created by the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
‘We need nine justices. You need that, with the unsolicited millions of ballots that they’re sending,’ he said.
A new member of Trump’s Pennsylvania team said publicly that there aren’t enough ‘bombshells’ out there that would prevent President-elect Joe Biden form taking office.
The Trump campaign brought on lawyer Marc Scaringi, who also has an AM radio show, after several other attorneys resigned under public pressure from efforts to declare the vote in Pennsylvania and other states invalid.
Scaringi himself cast doubt on the effort shortly after TV networks called the race for Biden after naming him the victor in Pennsylvania.
‘I’ve been saying since Wednesday morning that Biden would win and to my friends out there … In my opinion there really are no bombshells that are about to drop that will derail a Biden presidency, including these lawsuits,’ he said on his show Nov. 7.
‘I really don’t want to get into a discussion on any of these pending lawsuits file by the trump campaign or the state GOPs,’ he continued. ‘I will say that some of them have merit, like the lawsuits filed by our Pennsylvania Republican party … several of the other lawsuits don’t seem to have much evidence substantiated their claims,’ he said.
‘At the end of the day, in my view, the litigation will not work,’ he said. ‘It will not reverse this election.’
The Trump campaign lawyers are arguing that voters in Democratic-run counties were allowed to fix or ‘cure’ their mail-in ballots, while those in Republican-run counties were not – although the patchwork process occurred in part due to decisions by individual counties not to take guidance from a state elections officer.
The state advised county election officials the night before the election that county election boards ‘should provide information to party and candidate representatives during the pre-canvass that identifies the voters whose ballots have been rejected’ to facilitate provision ballots or contacts to allow them to ‘cure’ their ballots.
STATE-BY-STATE: WHERE TRUMP IS SUING AND HOW IT’S GOING
BIDEN MAJORITY TRUMP NEEDS TO OVERTURN: 47,620
On Monday the Trump campaign filed their big shot at overturning all mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania, claiming that Democratic and Republican counties did not administer them in the same way; instances of fraud; and that poll watchers could not see them being counted. On that basis, they say, the results should not be certified on November 23.
The case faces an uphill struggle – and on Thursday the largest law firm in. involved in it, Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, quit.
The Supreme Court has already allowed mail-in ballots to be issued in Pennsylvania, and the claim of poll watchers not seeing them being counted had failed before when a Trump lawyer last Friday agreed that a ‘non-zero number’ of Republicans had observed the count in Philadelphia.
The new suit provided no actual evidence of fraud. It did include a claim by an Erie mailman that he had heard his supervisors talking about illegally backdating ballots; he was said to have recanted that claim when questioned by U.S. Postal Inspectors.
Trump’s campaign last Wednesday filed a motion to intervene in a case pending before the U.S. Supreme Court challenging a decision from the state’s highest court that allowed election officials to count mail-in ballots postmarked by Tuesday’s Election Day that were delivered through Friday.
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito on Friday night ordered county election boards in the state to separate mail-in ballots received after 8 p.m. EST on Election Day.
Pennsylvania election officials have said those ballots were already being separated.
The justices previously ruled there was not enough time to decide the merits of the case before Election Day but indicated they might revisit it afterwards.
Alito, joined by fellow conservative Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, said in a written opinion that there was a ‘strong likelihood’ the Pennsylvania court’s decision violated the U.S. Constitution.
Pennsylvania’s Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar has said late-arriving ballots are a tiny proportion of the overall vote in the state.
Rudy Giuliani unveiled a ‘witness’ to his claims – a Republican poll watcher – on Saturday but the man, Daryl Brooks, has not been included in any legal papers. He was previously convicted of exposing himself to underage girls.
BIDEN MAJORITY TRUMP NEEDS TO OVERTURN: 12,813. RECOUNT IS LEGALLY IMPOSSIBLE
Trump’s campaign said last Saturday it had sued in Arizona, alleging that the state’s most populous county incorrectly rejected votes cast on Election Day by some voters.
The lawsuit, filed in state Superior Court in Maricopa County, said poll workers told some voters to press a button after a machine had detected an ‘overvote.’
The campaign said that decision disregarded voters’ choices in those races, and the lawsuit suggested those votes could prove ‘determinative’ in the outcome of the presidential race.
It is a modification of an earlier suit which was submitted and then withdrawn claiming that Trump voters were given sharpies to mark their ballots and claiming this made them more prone to error. The ‘sharpie-gate’ claims have no basis in fact, Arizona’s secretary of state says.
On Thursday 12, a judge savaged the affidavits produced to back the case as ‘spam’ and a Trump lawyer said they were not alleging fraud in any form.
BIDEN MAJORITY TRUMP NEEDS TO OVERTURN: 36,726
A voter, a member of the media and two candidate campaigns sued Nevada’s secretary of state and other officials to prevent the use of a signature-verification system in populous Clark County and to provide public access to vote counting.
A federal judge rejected the request on Friday, saying there was no evidence the county was doing anything unlawful.
No new suits have been lodged so far.
Trump campaign officials have also claimed evidence that non-residents have voted but have not sued.
BIDEN MAJORITY TRUMP NEEDS TO OVERTURN: 14,111
The Trump campaign on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in state court in Chatham County that alleged late-arriving ballots were improperly mingled with valid ballots, and asked a judge to order late-arriving ballots be separated and not be counted.
The case was dismissed on Thursday. No new suits have been filed. The state is going to a recount.
The two Republican senators, Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, called for the GOP Secretary of State to quit claiming there were election irregularities Monday. They offered no evidence and he scoffed: ‘That’s not going to happen.’
BIDEN MAJORITY TRUMP NEEDS TO OVERTURN: 148,645
On Monday 9 Trump filed a federal case alleging fraud and then later a separate demand that the votes are not certified on November 23.
In the first case, one witness – possibly misgendered by the Trump lawyers – claimed that they had been told by another person that mysterious ballots arrived late on vehicles with out of state plates and all were for Biden; that they had seen voters coached to vote for Biden; and that they were told to process ballots without any checks.
It also included poll watchers and ‘challengers’ who said they could not get close enough to see what was happening.
A federal judge has yet to issue any response on when and how it will be looked into. The Trump campaign also filed the same case again to the wrong federal court on Thursday 12 for no apparent reason.
Trump’s campaign last Wednesday filed a lawsuit in Michigan to halt the vote count in the state. The lawsuit alleged that campaign poll watchers were denied ‘meaningful access’ to counting of ballots, plus access to surveillance video footage of ballot drop boxes.
On Thursday 6, Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens dismissed the case, saying there was no legal basis or evidence to halt the vote and grant requests.
U.S. POSTAL SERVICE
The U.S. Postal Service said about 1,700 ballots had been identified in Pennsylvania at processing facilities during two sweeps on Thursday and were being delivered to election officials, according to a court filing early Friday.
The Postal Service said 1,076 ballots, had been found at its Philadelphia Processing and Distribution Center. About 300 were found at the Pittsburgh processing center, 266 at a Lehigh Valley facility and others at other Pennsylvania processing centers.
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington is overseeing a lawsuit by Vote Forward, the NAACP, and Latino community advocates.
Sullivan on Thursday ordered twice-daily sweeps at Postal Service facilities serving states with extended ballot receipt deadlines.
The judge plans to hold a status conference on Monday.